Wednesday, April 28, 2010

Arizona Boycott

All around the country, people are boycotting travel to Arizona. I mentioned on the podcast about Arizona's ridiculous new legislation requiring police to ask those they feel look like illegal immigrants to supply their papers proving otherwise. Not only does this put the burden of proof unduly on the accused, but it requires police to racially profile individuals who may or may not be illegal.

The mayor of San Francisco, Gavin Newsom, has issued an official city employee ban on travel to Arizona as a symbol of solidarity with those against this ridiculous legislation. Mexico has warned its citizens against going to Arizona, which means a potential loss of 3.8 million visitors, and even more millions of dollars lost in tourism.

This is FUCKING FABULOUS

Absolutely nothing in the modern world talks like money does. Perhaps if Arizona's interim governor begins noticing that expenses aren't equaling income due to a rapid decrease in the latter, they'll realize everybody thinks this legislation is ridiculous. Sure, it's a good kick in the rear to the federal government to get on immigration reform, but that's like saying the Holocaust was a good kick in the rear for diplomatic relations. How many people will have to be victimized between point A and point B?

The Washington, D.C. city council is also thinking about putting the same travel ban in place that San Francisco's city government has. Businesses, local & state governments, whole countries. They're all ringing the proverbial alarm clock on Arizona, hoping the state's government will wake up!

What do you think about these boycotts? Are they too extreme? Is this punishing the whole of Arizona for the idiocy of their government? Or, is this doing to Arizona what it is doing to its citizens? Email IncitingARiotPodcast@gmail.com, leave a comment below, or Tweet me @IncitingARiot. 

Love and Lyte,

Fire Lyte

7 comments:

  1. >>Is this punishing the whole of Arizona for the idiocy of their government? <<

    Probably not, since 70% supported the law here in AZ. Punishing the 30% against it I suppose =p

    I like boycotts, I think its one of the best ways for a civil society to speak their mind peacefully. I wouldn't join in on this one though as I like most of what the law does, mostly that it mimics the federal law that is not enforced. Best case scenario for me is that it is struck down in court due to some problematic sections and rewritten with less risk of racial profiling and those sections removed.

    (Headachey too long sentence of doomy-rantness incoming!)
    Being the kidnapping capital of the country and near the top for identity theft so illegals can get jobs with our IDs(mine was stolen twice when I was a teen)....and having more Americans killed by Illegal Immigrants since the start of the Iraq war than have died in that war.. I don't think the previous actions were sufficiently protecting our citizens.

    I understand the fear of civil rights infractions, but I also understand the burden Arizonans are under due to this crisis. Driving while Mexican shouldn't be a reason to pull someone over. However if someone is pulled over for something else, doesn't have a driver's license and doesn't speak English, their status of being here legally should be verified.

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  2. ". . .is this doing to Arizona what it is doing to its citizens?"

    No.

    This has been another episode of Simple Answers to Loaded Questions.

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  3. First off let me say I am not a bigot...I have two grandchildren who are half Mexican, one whose father came to this country from Mexico, (legally), two grandsons and a grand daughter who are half Afro American, a grand daughter who is half Cheyenne, a gay grandson and a lesbian grand daughter, and all are loved, not just accepted, but loved.
    But until you have walked in our shoes, please reserve your judgement of us until you fully understand what it means to live in a state where the illegals seem to have more rights than we citizens do.

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  4. Well, ED, I would just like to remind you that I'm from Texas. Not 'from' like I spent a year or two there finishing up a degree, but I lived there from the late 80s until last year. I know entire areas of nearly every city that are chock full of illegal immigrants. I worked in restaurants and retail stores with illegal immigrants. Believe me, not only have I walked in the shoes, I own a few pairs.

    The point is not whether immigration reform needs to happen. It does. The process to become a citizen needs to be made to where people can actually pass that test - along with other needed legislation. As I said in the podcast, this will be a needed swift kick in the rear of the federal government to get something passed before this goes into effect in August.

    This is about civil rights. The right for people not to be racially profiled. The right for citizens to not be constantly stopped, pulled over, harassed, jailed, charged criminally, etc. for simply looking the wrong race. This is about more than the need for immigration reform.

    I don't think you're a bigot, but I think you might want to take a look at it from a different perspective. Perhaps listen to how I handled it on the podcast.

    Love and Lyte,

    Fire Lyte

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  5. I'm not talking about living next door to or working in restaurants and retail stores with illegal immigrants, I'm talking about a rancher, a man whose family helped settle this state a hundred years ago, being shot to death along with his dog while working his own land. I'm talking about his neighbor who was lucky enough to get to his gun first and held several illegals until the Boarder Patrol could get there to pick them up, and then was arrested for kidnapping. I'm talking about a young couple who were cleaning their church here in my own tiny town and were kidnapped and forced to drive three drug runners back to the boarder, after they beat the woman almost to death.
    These are things that are happening just in my little corner of my state. Everyday the news is full of drive by shootings in our cities, where innocent people are killed most of which are Hispanic themselves, drug wars that threaten people who are here legally, again mostly Hispanic, and houses with as many as 20 or 30 people living in horrific conditions and not being allowed to leave because the Coyotes who brought them here want more money before they will release them.

    The Federal Government refuses to help us, in fact just today this was posted on one of Tucson's local TV sites:

    "Breaking News: Obama says Congress may not tackle immigration
    President Barack Obama says there may 'not be an appetite' in Congress for dealing with immigration after going through a tough year".
    http://www.kgun9.com/Global/story.asp?S=12393820

    My state is at war, and we the citizens of Arizona have our hands tied as far as being able to fight back.
    For the first time in my life I lock my doors at night and keep a loaded gun in my house. I HATE this. My biggest fear is that someday I may have to use that gun to protect myself or one of my loved ones.
    You talk about civil rights? Well where are mine? I want the freedom to feel safe in my own home back, I want the freedom to walk in my desert with out the fear of meeting up with someone who may do me harm.
    This fight goes far beyond politics, we here in Arizona are fighting for our lives and sad as it might be, this bill may be the only way for us to accomplish this.

    Something else you may not have thought of, the people who will be hurt most by boycotting our state are the very people you think you are supporting. The Mexican man who owns the local Mexican food restaurant, the Mexican family who run the corner mini mart and gas station, the Mexican people who will be working at the conventions you are encouraging to go elsewhere, the Mexican maid who will be cleaning the hotel rooms you want to shut down, it goes on and on. These are the people who come here legally to improve their lives... are you willing to sacrifice them for your cause?
    Oh sure, the big guys are going to feel the pinch, but they have the means to pull themselves out of the hole when this problem is solved, but that restaurant and store owner, maid, waiter etc., what are they going to do? They won't have the money to start over and are the ones who will come out of this on the bottom of the heap.

    Instead of boycotting us for this last desperate measure we feel we have to take, go after the people who are really responsible. Our congressmen and senators who sit up there in Washington, smoking their big cigars, and drinking their fine brandy, deciding who's brother in law is going to get the best deal in the next bill they pass.
    Democrat or Republican, they're all the same. Take a good look at the man you put in office and forget his party. It's time to set our whole country right, not just Arizona.

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  6. Thanks for this, ED. If you don't mind, I'll bring this topic back up in-depth in the next episode of Inciting A Riot. You bring up excellent points that should not be ignored. I think each side has a valid argument. Something needs to be done.

    FL

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  7. Hi Fire Lyte,
    As an Arizona resident I definitely do not support the boycotts! I did not vote for this bill, so why should I get punished? Hurting the whole state financially isn't fair and is too extreme in my opinion. While I think racial profiling is horrible I do agree with our governor that something has to be done about the immigration problems and so far the Federal government has not done its job.

    ED above does bring up some good points too. It is so tough because I am liberal and I really do care about people, but there is a large issue with illegal immigrants in our state. I don't know what the solution is? I can tell you as a former teacher and someone who works in the education field that the quantity of illegal immigrant children in our state does have a negative effect on our school system and health care system. I don't say that to be mean, it is just a fact. Our schools are over crowded and under funded. There is no preference given to citizen children...so in some of our schools we have children who are citizens being bused to multiple schools for classes, or sitting on the floor of a classroom that is over crowded with no desk-while an illegal immigrant is sitting at a desk in the front of the room. Of course we want to be able to educate all children, but there is no logic in having a non-citizen get priority over a citizen. At least in my opinion.

    As far as Health care goes I had to go without health insurance for years, but because my parents made a certain amount of money I didn't qualify for any of the government based programs (this was during college when I was an adult and living completely on my own). However a large junk of our health cares expenses go to paying for a neo-natal program that pays for any "poor" or illegal women living in Arizona to get their doctors visits and baby delivery paid for by the state. So as a US citizen I wouldn't have been covered if I had gotten pregnant during college, but an illegal immigrant would be. Does not make sense to me?

    My ex-boyfriend in college was illegal and he received waaaaaay more financial aid then I did. I went without food literally and he bought 4 X-boxes and other gaming equipment for his dorm room because he had so much financial aid he had extra to spend. Hmmmm not cool!
    Just some extra food for thought...

    Thanks for tackling this tough subject Fire Lyte!

    Blessings,
    Bex

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